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A concise summary of why progressivism is dangerous, by Alec Baldwin

Was reading Alec Baldwin’s “goodbye” this morning and saw this comment:

As progressive as I’ve been in my politics, there are other things I don’t think of as liberal or progressive, just common sense.

This statement concisely summarizes why progressivism, and progressives, are dangerous.  They do not view a large number of their viewpoints, up to and including some of their more controversial ones, as a function of their ideology.   In advocating for them, they are not being political;  no, they are just standing on the side of “common sense.”  If they actually believe this, they are lying to themselves.  But the elite progressives know better;  they are just lying.  If something were “common sense” it would not need advocating for, it would just be.  What we actually see, then, is progressives hoisting their ‘common sense’ upon others, and doing whatever they can to undermine that which actually is common, and change the attitudes of the populace (or change the populace itself) so that they conform with their ideology.

Setting aside the deception and self-deception, that is not what makes the sentiment dangerous.  To the extent that they really believe they are advocating for something that is “common sense”, there is no ideological or moral “check and balances” to their advocacy.  They will push, and push, and push, and push, never thinking that they have pushed too hard, always oriented (they say) towards the ‘common good.’  And if some individuals are trampled along the way, or if individual rights are obliterated, that’s alright;  it’s just the cost of achieving “common sense” social ‘justice.’

Baldwin’s comment made me think of a comment made by C. S. Lewis in the essay “The Humanitarian Theory of Punishment”, which is included in the collection of his essays, God in the Dock (Page 292). I have quoted it before on this blog:

“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. They may be more likely to go to Heaven yet at the same time likelier to make a Hell of earth. This very kindness stings with intolerable insult. To be “cured” against one’s will and cured of states which we may not regard as disease is to be put on a level of those who have not yet reached the age of reason or those who never will; to be classed with infants, imbeciles, and domestic animals.”

See also this.

Of all the things I fear most today, it is the love of my fellow man.  It literally knows no bounds.

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4 Responses to A concise summary of why progressivism is dangerous, by Alec Baldwin

  1. If something were “common sense” it would not need advocating for, it would just be.

    Like believing in Jesus? :-)

    Common sense always needs advocating for. Humans can be incredibly stupid.

  2. Spoken like a true progressive. Did you also co-write “Nudge”?

    Who represented believing in Jesus as ‘common sense’? It wasn’t me.

    If anything, in my experience it has been skeptics and atheists that think that believing in Jesus (and God) should be common sense. Ie, if God existed and Jesus was GOd, they presume to know with certainty what kind of universe would appear to their senses, namely, one in which the evidence would be simple and obvious.

    But maybe it is? “Humans,” after all, “can be incredibly stupid.”

    (I don’t actually accept the assumption and think it is incredibly flawed, and think there is very little in the real world that is ‘simple’ or straight forward ‘common sense.’)

  3. No I wasn’t referring to you. The introduction on your website seems to indicate that you don’t think believing in Jesus is common sense.

    Isn’t it obvious that god exists? Isn’t it obvious that Jesus is our Lord and Saviour? Isn’t it obvious that the Bible is true? And all the other religions are rubbish? You might not hold any of these positions, but plenty of people do.

    And yes, I think if god exists, loves us and wants us to live with him in Heaven for all eternity, he would make it reasonably obvious which path we should all follow.

    Sorry which assumption do you not accept?

  4. I don’t accept your assumption, that if God exists, it would be ‘common sense’ to come to that conclusion.

    Right now I’m trying to reconcile two of your own arguments and statements, here:

    “Common sense always needs advocating for. Humans can be incredibly stupid.”

    vs

    “And yes, I think if god exists, loves us and wants us to live with him in Heaven for all eternity, he would make it reasonably obvious which path we should all follow.”

    What if it is reasonably obvious but you are just incredibly stupid? ;)

    Or is it just other humans that can be incredibly stupid? Or is it that you are not a human? :)

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