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Mormon Polygamy And Secular Hedonism and Media Hypocrisy

So I bet all of my readers have been following the Texas raid of the Mormon ‘compound’ filled to the brim with raging polygamists and abused children. I am not great fan of Mormonism, don’t get me wrong, but the whole affair has done nothing more than make me scoff. You’ve probably seen the sneering questioning by media personalities of people from the compound, or lawyers for them, etc. The idea that a man might have more than one wife and that this wife is ‘underage’ is self-evidently despicable to them. In some discussions I’ve seen on cable television, the underlying pretext seems to be “Ah, well, that’s fundamentalism for you.” Read: “See, when people really believe their religion all sorts of bad things happen.”

The utter hypocrisy of this rankles my nostrils. Not that I in any way want to come across as justifying having sex with ‘underage’ individuals (though I’ll have my own arguments against it), but it is pretty apparent from the news in general that people are having sex with minors all over the place. Those are the ones that are reported. The sad humor of it all is that people act surprised. We have a society that is utterly saturated in sexuality.  It should surprise none of us when people act on the advertisements and billboards. Talk about mixed messages.

If we sort out the underage and coercion aspect of the affair and just looked at the prevalent sexual habits within our society, it is quite clear that many people are having sex with a lot of other people, and these are often as young as fourteen or fifteen years old. We know this- or so they say, otherwise distributing condoms to them would be a waste of money. We must appreciate the fact that without the distribution of birth control operations like Planned Parenthood would probably go out of business. “Kids are going to do it” and then we are surprised when they do it, and remain surprised when they grow up and keep doing it.

So the Mormon men have themselves four or five wives and you want to stand in judgment in them. Ok, how many sexual partners have you had? More than four? How are you superior again? How many of these partners do you remain firmly committed to?  At least the Mormons are sticking together with their sexual partners.  You might say, “Oh, well, but I just have sex with them. I don’t marry them. And I use birth control. And if anything ever goes wrong there is always abortion. See, I clean up my messes.”

Much better. A round of applause for the secularists and their continued cultivation of base hedonism at ever earlier and earlier ages. [Pause for clapping] Yes, you are much more sophisticated than them damn Mormons who have the audacity to have sex with more than one partner and actually keep the offspring. Yes, there still is that ‘underage’ issue but with the glut of incidents surrounding teachers and their students and even more that we don’t know about.  Perhaps the truth of the matter actually is that many would do the same if only they thought they could get away with it.

In the midst of the secularist hypocrisy, there is overwhelming scorn for the traditional Christian view that marriage properly consists of a union of just one man and one woman. Yea, what a bad idea. But I know the truth of the matter. It isn’t merely the one man and one woman thing that generates the scorn its the notion that it is derived from ‘religious’ principles and there is no place for such talk in secular society. In the same way high school seniors and above can have any kind of sexual activity that they like but that’s ok! That ain’t religious! That’s just ‘doing it like they do it on Discovery channel!’ But damn those sex-hungry Mormon fundamentalists!

Insatiable sexual addiction in a religious context: Bad… very bad. Insatiable sexual addition in sexular society… good, very good. Rampant teacher/student relationships and an increase in Pedophilia… we didn’t mean that!  [begin chest thumping]We wouldn’t do that, no, not us![/end chest thumping]

Yes, applaud them! These are our social engineers at work! They know best! Down with ancient societal norms and oppressive religious principles!  Hold the mayo, pass the condom! What’s the worst that can happen that a trip to the local abortion clinic can’t fix?

Much better.



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    • David on May 13, 2008 at 4:07 pm

    Well said, sir. We were liberated to be enslaved.

    • SMKJJB on May 14, 2008 at 10:36 am

    I appreciate your points on the hypocrisy that’s evident in reactions to the FLDS lifestyle. But PLEASE stop referring to this group as “Mormon”. “Mormon” is a nickname used for members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. The FLDS have no association with The Church of Jesus Christ of latter-day Saints. This group formed almost 80 years ago and much more recently decided to use the name FLDS. There is no such thing as a “fundamentalist Mormon”. Church leaders for The Church of Jesus Christ of latter-day Saints have repeatedly asked the media to stop erroneously making this association between the two. The media in reports such as this only continues to confuse the public in trying to blur the line between FLDS and The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. One of the main tenets of the LDS Church found in it’s articles of faith is that we believe “in obeying, honoring and sustaining the law.” Any member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints who practiced the lifestyle as seen among the FLDS, would be excommunicated.

    • Anthony on May 14, 2008 at 11:36 am

    You are welcome to make your case, as you have just done, but in this particular example I personally see no reason not to use the term. I will happily concede that I have not investigated the matter extensively and would not be surprised to learn that the media misjudged the matter. Yet what seems clear to me based on what I do know is that the Texas folks adhere to Mormon doctrine… but not the part where ‘obeying, honoring, and sustaining the law’ means overthrowing previous revelation.

    You are free to cite some references if you like, but this is a particular discussion that I don’t see myself engaging in.

  1. Just as SMKJJB, I also agree with much of your passionate argument.

    I regret that you have been subjected to inaccurate media reports which referred to the Texas group as “Mormons”. My web link attached to this post tracks back to a clarifying post regarding the Mormons vs. FLDS confusion. As a devoted member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (“Mormon”) I add my plea for responsible journalism, informed conversation and mutual respect on this sensitive topic. You have demonstrated that you are a very intelligent and articulate human being. It is understandable to become very agitated regarding this recent travesty. However, allowing that to cloud your ability to do further research or acknowledge the distinction between two completely separate religious groups will only compound the tragedy of this event further. Thank you for your consideration.

    • Anthony on May 14, 2008 at 2:15 pm

    I will promise that if ever I issue an argument opposed to Mormonism on this blog that I will not describe the Texas group as Mormons without first sitting down to see if your charges are accurate.

    For now, I will let my readers take your posts under consideration and follow up if they like.

    “You have demonstrated that you are a very intelligent and articulate human being.”

    shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! We don’t want rumors to begin. 🙂 (Thanks)

    • colin on May 14, 2008 at 8:54 pm

    I appreciate your comments. They are accurate for the most part and pretty well sum up the base truth of the matter.

    Yes they are “mormons”. They actually still follow the teachings of Joseph Smith, Brigham Young and John Taylor… they didn’t throw away their beliefs because the doctrines were “difficult” to live with or unpopular… they still try to live the way they believe their prophet taught them. Not like the modern church that tries to distance itself from everything that our modern-day “moral” society deems “inappropriate” or hard to swallow. The church that was so persecuted in the 1800’s has now become one of the greatest persecuters!

    I just wish they would make up their minds… in the 80s and early 90s they wanted to get away from being called “mormons”… now they are back to claiming the name. The fact is they simply don’t fit the name anymore… and they need to realise it rather than publically stating that there is “no such thing as a fundamentalist!” Really? I’m one. LOL

    Thanks again for your comments on the hypocrisy in our society.

    • Anthony on May 14, 2008 at 9:10 pm

    Thanks for your comments, Colin. I think I’ll just leave you guys here to battle this one out. I’m going to hole up with popcorn over here and enjoy the show. 🙂 At least we agree with the media and secular hypocrisy!

    • Morpheus on July 27, 2010 at 12:43 pm

    As far as I can say, this system of having sex without claiming responsibility is highly hypocritical and incredibly disturbing, by itself. IMO, some woman who I had some relationship, or fathered a kid by, has every right to somehow prove I was her kid’s father, and mail me a legal demand for child support right to my house, regardless if I was married. The fact that I could be haunted by reckless decisions would easily make the ideal deterrent to me being non-monogamous in practice or in law, simply because my own actions could haunt me in this manner.

    As far as this case goes, I would ask the question as to whether the polygamist organization did use welfare or farm subsidy dollars to support the wives and the children. If this is true, then it is very disturbing, because this is taxpayers money going to a cause that they do not neccessarily support, and is illegal as well, for the merits of underage sex and child abuse, as stjohnny mentioned above.
    While I am a member of the latter-day saints mainstream group that has banned polygamy for the sake of becoming part of the United States of America, that is what I see as the real issue here. While I vote, pay my taxes, and go to the church of my choice, most people in these groups he mentioned live in isolated settings, and I wonder whether or not they even fulfill the roles as U.S. residents or citizens at all. That principle of being part of nations and subject to earthly governments is more foundational and important to the LDS Church than was polygamy, and that is the main reason for the change. I am glad that I am part of this American society, but I fear that numerous people in various cultic groups such as this one are not, and frankly cost the rest of us our well-earned money in the process.

    I agree with stjohnny’s point that America is really on the wrong track, we somehow legally condone irresponsible behavior but punish it whenever a person is simply caught or accepts a higher standard of responsibility, it’s both absurd and disgusting.

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