Who made God? Who made the Universe? Chicken, meet the Egg
Posted by Anthony on September 26, 2008
The question ‘Who made God’ is one of the first questions a young child asks. It is an obvious question with a difficult to comprehend answer. The problem is when adults get stymied. Worse is when grown men who ought to know better and claim they do get it wrong. For example, this little bit from Christian turned atheist Dan Barker says:
The mind of a god would be at least as complex and orderly as the rest of nature and would be subject to the same question: Who made god? If a god can be thought eternal, then so can the universe.
While rejecting the premise of his statement, it does help us bring it to the point. In the first place, Christians themselves create the initial problem. To their kids or in a carefree moment they’ll say “Everything is made by God.” The kid quickly sees that everything ought to include God, so now they want to know what made God. When the parent says “Everything except God” it seems ad hoc. The ‘everything’ needs to be qualified, and Christians worth their salt typically have. For example, William Lane Craig issues the Kalam Cosmological Argument with something more like “Everything with a beginning has a cause.”
One of the reasons I find Dan Barker to be *ahem* not very… *ahem* worthy of my time generally is because he is perfectly comfortable presenting the view that Christians argue ‘Everything has a cause.’ It is very disingenuous if he knows better… and if he doesn’t know better… well… at any rate you will see on the page I mentioned above down by ‘First Cause’ he does exactly this.
Still, it is not my point here to argue the Kalam or go after Dan Barker. I am directing my argument against those who feel that it is ad hoc to infer or deduce that something has always existed, uncreated. Many newly minted skeptics thump their chests smugly about the absurdity of believing in an uncaused cause and then uncritically go on to posit their own- only they call their choice the ‘universe’ whereas the theist calls theirs, ‘God.’
The value of the Barker quote above is to corroborate my assertion that it is not inherently inferior to say that there is a God, eternally existing, because no matter what, we posit something eternally existing, without a cause. We can turn Barker’s quote around: “Who made the universe? If a universe can be thought eternal, then so can God.” Read the rest of the entry… »























